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[#8886] Written by: stdesy [17/12/2006, 09:02]
maybe i'm just watching these on a crappy monitor or something, but in my
opinion, the difference is barely noticeable. a little fuzzier and the colors
aren't as vivid, but i'm really shocked that some people think it is
unwatchable. its way better than a dsr for example.

by the way, good show.
[#8888] Written by: Duckimus Prime [17/12/2006, 09:11]
Quote by praxis

be thankful for what you get. at least it is being ripped.



i'd be more thankful if the people ripping the hdtv source weren't having their
rips nuked.
[#8905] Written by: Jedit [17/12/2006, 11:58]
Quote by sphoo
the bbc is funded by the licence fee and is worth it in my opinion.

why? well on bbc channels there are no adverts. on bbc radio stations there are
no adverts. plus a duty for them to make good original programming.


which makes me wonder how they can get away with making utter dross like robin
hood. don't let me stop you enjoying it, but it's festering drivel and everyone
i know has given up on it even as something to mock. watch robin of sherwood
instead.

[#8906] Written by: mkztg [17/12/2006, 12:02]
i don't know what the big deal is, i have a hdtv too and to be honest, the hd
version of all the shows is a little better but not that much better. the file
size is twice but the quality is not twice.. its a tv show.. besides, the
smaller ones mean i can fit twice as many on a data dvd to send to my friend in
iraq. afn doesn't show any of the good shows, at least not this season. they
are about 2 seasons behind on everything.
[#8907] Written by: Lanus [17/12/2006, 12:05]
maybe im missing something here but arent standard res pdtv and hdtv rips
essentially the exact same thing? so long as its a quality digital signal its
irrelevant since both sources are downsized to the typical 624x352res. it doesnt
matter if its downsized from 1080p or from standard uk resolution, so long as
its below the original res then its irrelevant. the quality of the capture gear
and encoding method plays the only differenciating role and thats whats most
likely the case here if theres an issue.
[#8908] Written by: PsyCat [17/12/2006, 12:53]
that was a great ep,btw i watch it all on my pc with tft,so far,i can't tell of
any diffrence between pdtv and hdtv
[#8914] Written by: coopster32 [17/12/2006, 13:52]
this is a great show daniel and from the uk too means we can make something
other than corrie lol.
and worthy of a watch

but the usa has us beat at the tv show game :-(
but thats ok coz i watch em anyways :-d

thanks to all uploaders who make this possible :thumbsup:

and this site for being so kewl ;-)

thanks
[#8919] Written by: tellos0 [17/12/2006, 14:14]
Quote by bugchicklv
daniel: another american here that watches. not too many of
my friends have
heard of it, but i have slowly been recruiting them to watch this and the cbc\'s
\"intelligence\" (which i have to get off demonoid, unfortunately )


can you tell me why some intelligence episodes have 460mb and others have
320mb? thanks.
[#8926] Written by: ricky011 [17/12/2006, 15:20]
"give us hdtv, pdtv is crap!!!"

oh, "sod off boldrick!" (another fine example of british humor: blackadder)

maybe you would like to go to england, and cap it yourself in hdtv?? if you even
know what capping means?

once again... stop whining and, if you are such a perfectionist and a dedicated
collector of quality releases, just wait for the damn dvd...

oh, no... but you would have to lose some money for the dvd? well, maybe mommy
can up your allowance for a bit...

"bloody hell, man..."
[#8933] Written by: Sarre [17/12/2006, 17:13]
lanus> maybe im missing something here but arent standard res pdtv ...

you're missing that when you resize ("resample") you want the source to be
as pristine/high resolution as possible for best results. this is signal
processing basics.

this is the reason for when, to take a very concrete example, you are creating
mipmaps, you don't resample the source a to image b, then image b to c, and
then image c to d, etc. you always begin with the source, so a to b, then a to
c, then a to d...

(ironically this forum software seems to be displaying a related problem when
using preview where each preview gets escaped and then fed back, resulting in
ever more escape-characters ("noise") entering the text.)
[#8940] Written by: Lanus [17/12/2006, 18:19]
sarre>> you're missing that when you resize ("resample" you want the source to be
as pristine/high resolution as possible for best results. this is signal
processing basics.>>


but thats not true sarre. the perfect way to cap a show is to cap it at the
exact resolution its being encoded at, not a pixel more orless. knocking a 1920
wide res video down to 624 wide res doesnt result in a better pic than knocking
down a standard 720 wide uk pal resolution to 624 pixels wide.

its the same as if you were resizing a 720pixel jpg to 624 pixels wide and
resizing a 1920pixel jpg to 624. if you do that youll see that you get the exact
same thing, the larger image doesnt result in a better small image.

youre right that you want the signal as pristine as possible but the resolution
is irrelevant so long as its higher or equal to the end video.

your example with mipmaps is only about multiple recompression
[#8959] Written by: bugchicklv [17/12/2006, 20:52]
tellos0: honestly, i have no idea. i have wondered about it too, and noticed
that some of the rips have the "transition" mini-scenes (entrepreneur, the
brother, etc.)
that added to the overall length--but certainly not enough to justify a 140mb
difference.

maybe someone a little more tech savvy on the specifics of those rips can tell us.

(either way, i am happy to have them--with only 500 people or so downloading
them i was afraid the ripper wouldn\'t continue! thanks to all you guys for the
hard work!)
[#8961] Written by: ABennett [17/12/2006, 20:58]
robin hood gets pretty good download figures actually - pushes the 20,000 on
most episodes.
[#9069] Written by: Duckimus Prime [18/12/2006, 08:59]
Quote by ricky011
maybe you would like to go to england, and cap it yourself in
hdtv?? if you even know what capping means?

once again... stop whining and, if you are such a perfectionist and a dedicated
collector of quality releases, just wait for the damn dvd...

oh, no... but you would have to lose some money for the dvd? well, maybe mommy
can up your allowance for a bit...


personally i'd prefer it if river would just sod off and stop capping it from
the lower quality source, when people were capping robin hood from the higher
quality hdtv source, only to have their rips nuked because the low quality
version was out first.

i'm complaining about the pdtv releases because they've prevented hdtv rips that
we were getting. but don't let that get in the way of you accusing people of
whining.

personally i know eztv are stuck on what they can release, i just wish that
stupid scene rules would stop preventing them from getting versions from the
better quality source.
[#9093] Written by: bugchicklv [18/12/2006, 13:19]
"robin hood gets pretty good download figures actually - pushes the 20,000 on
most episodes."

my post was a response to the question about "intelligence" as was the 500 dl's
i was referring to, not robin hood's. sorry for the confusion.
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