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Posted at 17/12/2006, 09:02
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maybe i'm just watching these on a crappy monitor or something, but in my opinion, the difference is barely noticeable. a little fuzzier and the colors aren't as vivid, but i'm really shocked that some people think it is unwatchable. its way better than a dsr for example. by the way, good show. |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 09:11
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i'd be more thankful if the people ripping the hdtv source weren't having their rips nuked. |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 11:58
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which makes me wonder how they can get away with making utter dross like robin hood. don't let me stop you enjoying it, but it's festering drivel and everyone i know has given up on it even as something to mock. watch robin of sherwood instead. |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 12:02
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i don't know what the big deal is, i have a hdtv too and to be honest, the hd version of all the shows is a little better but not that much better. the file size is twice but the quality is not twice.. its a tv show.. besides, the smaller ones mean i can fit twice as many on a data dvd to send to my friend in iraq. afn doesn't show any of the good shows, at least not this season. they are about 2 seasons behind on everything. |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 12:05
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maybe im missing something here but arent standard res pdtv and hdtv rips essentially the exact same thing? so long as its a quality digital signal its irrelevant since both sources are downsized to the typical 624x352res. it doesnt matter if its downsized from 1080p or from standard uk resolution, so long as its below the original res then its irrelevant. the quality of the capture gear and encoding method plays the only differenciating role and thats whats most likely the case here if theres an issue. |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 12:53
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that was a great ep,btw i watch it all on my pc with tft,so far,i can't tell of any diffrence between pdtv and hdtv 
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 13:52
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this is a great show daniel and from the uk too means we can make something other than corrie lol. and worthy of a watch but the usa has us beat at the tv show game :-( but thats ok coz i watch em anyways :-d thanks to all uploaders who make this possible :thumbsup: and this site for being so kewl ;-) thanks |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 14:14
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can you tell me why some intelligence episodes have 460mb and others have 320mb? thanks. |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 15:20
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"give us hdtv, pdtv is crap!!!" oh, "sod off boldrick!"  (another fine example of british humor: blackadder)maybe you would like to go to england, and cap it yourself in hdtv?? if you even know what capping means? once again... stop whining and, if you are such a perfectionist and a dedicated collector of quality releases, just wait for the damn dvd... oh, no... but you would have to lose some money for the dvd? well, maybe mommy can up your allowance for a bit... "bloody hell, man..."
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 17:13
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lanus> maybe im missing something here but arent standard res pdtv ... you're missing that when you resize ("resample") you want the source to be as pristine/high resolution as possible for best results. this is signal processing basics. this is the reason for when, to take a very concrete example, you are creating mipmaps, you don't resample the source a to image b, then image b to c, and then image c to d, etc. you always begin with the source, so a to b, then a to c, then a to d... (ironically this forum software seems to be displaying a related problem when using preview where each preview gets escaped and then fed back, resulting in ever more escape-characters ("noise") entering the text.) |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 18:19
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sarre>> you're missing that when you resize ("resample" you want the source to be as pristine/high resolution as possible for best results. this is signal processing basics.>> but thats not true sarre. the perfect way to cap a show is to cap it at the exact resolution its being encoded at, not a pixel more orless. knocking a 1920 wide res video down to 624 wide res doesnt result in a better pic than knocking down a standard 720 wide uk pal resolution to 624 pixels wide. its the same as if you were resizing a 720pixel jpg to 624 pixels wide and resizing a 1920pixel jpg to 624. if you do that youll see that you get the exact same thing, the larger image doesnt result in a better small image. youre right that you want the signal as pristine as possible but the resolution is irrelevant so long as its higher or equal to the end video. your example with mipmaps is only about multiple recompression 
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 20:52
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tellos0: honestly, i have no idea. i have wondered about it too, and noticed that some of the rips have the "transition" mini-scenes (entrepreneur, the brother, etc.) that added to the overall length--but certainly not enough to justify a 140mb difference. maybe someone a little more tech savvy on the specifics of those rips can tell us. (either way, i am happy to have them--with only 500 people or so downloading them i was afraid the ripper wouldn\'t continue! thanks to all you guys for the hard work!) |
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Posted at 17/12/2006, 20:58
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robin hood gets pretty good download figures actually - pushes the 20,000 on most episodes. |
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Posted at 18/12/2006, 08:59
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personally i'd prefer it if river would just sod off and stop capping it from the lower quality source, when people were capping robin hood from the higher quality hdtv source, only to have their rips nuked because the low quality version was out first. i'm complaining about the pdtv releases because they've prevented hdtv rips that we were getting. but don't let that get in the way of you accusing people of whining. personally i know eztv are stuck on what they can release, i just wish that stupid scene rules would stop preventing them from getting versions from the better quality source. |
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Posted at 18/12/2006, 13:19
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"robin hood gets pretty good download figures actually - pushes the 20,000 on most episodes." my post was a response to the question about "intelligence" as was the 500 dl's i was referring to, not robin hood's. sorry for the confusion. |
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