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Posted at 21/10/2007, 13:48
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ha ha! yeeaahh.... we're such puritans! that's why we have legal medical marijuana in several states, same sex marriage in a few states, same sex adoption in many states....and despite bush's best attempts, we still have true freedom of speech. jon stewart and colbert are good examples of that. oh, and "flash gordan"? please! i don't know if that show shows t&a, but lets talk sexsessful shows that lived long and fruitful lives: sex and the city, sopranos, queer as folk... no can claim that sex/city and sopranos were flops. and what made them great? guns, pussy, and dope! but where did this "carte blanche" come from that lets everybody think they can say bs about americans? i'm not shitting on your front yard in jolly old england, am i?! is anyone here saying you "deserved" the london tube/bus bombings?! |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 14:00
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this is not about how successful us shows are. just where they are. sex and the city and the sopranos are on public free tv in the uk without being bleeped or cut. would that be allowed in us? |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 14:14
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from us versus british to censorship versus uncensored...really funny stuff. some of you are so full of it that i am surprised you can see over the brown stuff in front of your face. attacking nations based on what television has told you or what a few people act like. like an entire nation can be determined from just a couple of people, the news and television shows. quite frankly, you just need to grow up and quit acting like two-year olds having a pissing contest. the u.s. does some shows well and some not so well, it is the same with the uk, japan, korea, china, et cetera. not every show produced in country x will be pure gold. i think the us show makers remake a lot of uk shows because the uk shows contain cultural references that don't exist in the us so that the humor is lost on the us audience who have a different source of cultural references to draw upon. remember not all us humor is crude and not all uk humor is rude. look at the varying stand up comics on comedy central for example. different comedic forms exist outside of these supposed assigned stereotypes that people seem to keep wanting to apply. for an example look at jeff dunham's routine (check out youtube). how is achmed the dead terrorist related to redneck jokes? he's not, he is a parody of the terrorist persona. stewart and colbert use satire. there are many other forms of comedy but not all comedy can cross the cultural divide as all comedy is born from that country's cultural background. it is just the uk and the us can share some jokes across this divide because we share the same ancestry for the most part. though not all jokes can cross over especially ones that rely on slang. so, can't we all act like adults and drop the childishness? if you can't resist acting like a child stick to just commenting on the show and nothing else. - g |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 14:28
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"and what made them great? guns, pussy, and dope!" well, it's pretty hard to follow that, but somebody has to try. "english shows have a way lower average quality than american ones." are you having a laugh? "and then you wonder why everybody else in the world hates you and wants to drive planes into your skyscrapers." -petrat we don't. they don't, nor do hyperbole and punditry make it so. please seek professional help, ok thanks. |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 17:43
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lol free speech u wish hell me watching daily show + colbert report only shows me that the government of america is controlling like a mofo and dousnt give a crap about the american people, they do what they think is best, it dousnt matter if the people are with it or not... also in general, american tv sucks, its what about 90 procent of europe thinks loooooooll. |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 19:01
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i think this is an example of my point being made clear. basing views of any country off of television broadcasts is a sad state of human affairs for the individual because television is done for entertainment and doesn't show the whole picture as that would not be entertaining to the general audience. especially if a person is basing their opinion on two shows that satirize american media channels. shall we attempt to grow up now and carry on a civil discussion or shall we remain in our childish immature ways? |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 19:04
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isn't your dominating boyfriend looking for you to bend you over ? |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 20:25
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our free-to-air channels in the uk do have a '9 o'clock watershed', meaning that after 9pm pretty much anything goes. no hardcore sex or erect penises (at least not in fictional works), but as much nudity, violence & swearing as the producers think they'll get away with in order to gain more viewers. unfortunately, this more liberal attitude has only really developed over the last 10-15 years or so, & as a consequence there's still this marketability to the formerly risque that no longer seems to exist in the even less repressed western european countries like france, germany, the netherlands etc. an earlier post mentioned american celebrities on uk chat-shows revelling in the freedom to be profane - i remember seeing halle berry on 'friday night with jonathan ross' gleefully shouting "cunt! cunt! cunt! cunt! cunt!" & it being bleeped out on the air, so maybe it's only okay in context..? regardless of any strict rules, i for one greatly appreciate being allowed to decide for myself what i'm emotionally capable of watching. |
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Posted at 21/10/2007, 20:42
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i'm british, and i have been embarrassed by the quality of british drama of late. the last great show was rome, which i think was made by bbc/hbo and an italian production company, anyway. the last fully british show was shameless - brilliant and hilarious. the tudors is a poor imitation of the style pioneered by rome, and it's co- produced by showtime, too. dr. who, jekyll, prime suspect, torchwood, anything produced by itv, spooks, etc. are all patent rubbish. the best of american tv shows knock british tv into a cocked hat at the moment, and are making hollywood look redundant. nothing, but nothing i have ever seen, comes even close to mad men - sheer fucking class. heroes, lost, the sopranos, deadwood, battlestar galactica - come on, where is there any british show that comes even close to any of these. |
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Posted at 22/10/2007, 03:23
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prisoner was actually australian. |
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Posted at 22/10/2007, 07:53
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as kevin smith said "the british invented acting" and as the british say .. "the septics shit on acting" |
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Posted at 22/10/2007, 13:46
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grouped it with? he means the prisoner with patrick mcgoohan. |
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Posted at 22/10/2007, 16:03
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big lol? liebe s |
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Posted at 23/10/2007, 02:53
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i think it's worth pointing out to the uninitiated that secret diary of a call girl is based on a blog called belle de jour (which then became two books), hence the decision to have billie piper talking directly to the camera about the ins and outs of her job. i happen to think itv have done a pretty good job. |
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Posted at 24/10/2007, 09:12
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| this show stinks, billie piper ain't got the range, sorry | |||||
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