The torrent that won't die

i would say the reason there are no exploits out there is because, as we have
already been told, the mac is made for beginners. so the ratio of computer
literate people that would be capable of writing an exploit for a mac would be
practically zero compared to pc. i spose thats a good thing, but it is a false
sense of security for mac users. because of this, mac users are lax on
security and therefore a danger to everyone else on the internet.

a vulnerablity is a vulnerablity - you cant say os x vulnerabilities are more
secure than windows simply because noone using the damn thing has the nous to
write an exploit for it. however the existance of "proof of concept" worms
and trojans, such as osx/leap-a & osx.exploit.launchd, demonstrate that mac
vulnerabilities can and will be exploited - it's only a matter of time.

you don't think microsoft targets beginners with its fisher-price xp skin (and vista equivalents, no
doubt) and oversimplified and obfuscated method of running applications and everything else through
the miraculous 'start menu'? at least one version of windows (i think it was me) actually tried to hide
your files from you when you opened your boot disk's root directory.

and sure, you're right! it's only a matter of time! i guess six years isn't enough for a single genuine
threat.

complete insulation from all current threats is hardly what i'd call a 'false sense of security'.

i'd just like to get some clarification on something cause i'll be the first
to admit that i know shit about mac - the last time i used one was in high
school about a year before mac lost the australian educational institute
contract it had held for many years previously ... but i digress ...

it was posted earlier that the mac os x is an all emcompassing os that
includes products for anti virus and spyware detection. am i right in
assuming mac os x is distributed with safari browser & an im? does it also
come with a media player (maybe quicktime or sum itunes crap) and image
editing?

am i right that microsoft got in shit wif netscape for providing an all-
encompassing product that required no third party software - such as a
browser - because it did not allow for third party competition?

so why is mac getting away wif it?

i found the gamma correction thing in macs second to none or even third or
forth to none,for that matter.

it must give mac users a great kick out of life knowing that
their gui is a different shade of gama than 90% of the rest of computer world.
may explain why every mac, itunes crapola site looks so blinding white to
adjust for the dull gama correction config in macs...

htp://www.cgsd.com/papers/gamma.web.html
exerpt:
if the gif is ultimately going to reside on the web, where it will be viewed by
people with mac's and pc's, you are out of luck if you want everyone to view it
correctly.

thanks for the luv my post stuff.

just call me soul, not a soul or an are soul just soul will do... :d

there is a method to my madness....

santabj, your responses (most at least) are honestly laught-out-loud funny they're so stupid. you
didn't tackle all of mine, and i don't want to give you the satisfaction of spending 15-20 minutes on a
reply, so i'm just going to respond to a couple of things as quickly and concisely as possible.

first, perspective. apparently you have that. and apparently even though you don't like it, you've used
every version since system 6. odd, to say the least. i guess it's not perspective you need, it's just not to
be an asshole. in your very first post in this thread you told the guy to get a real computer. what a witty
quip that was. you're truly old beyond your wisdom.

(justcommenting says) "apple won the mp3 player war fair and square. if you're
not familiar with the insane number of lawsuits
and associated crap brought against microsoft over the years for their
anticompetitive practices, i
sincerely suggest you read up."

wtf? what mp3 player war? are you talking about dietunes and diepod? they both
blow harder than a h bomb imo. i never used that bloat and advise people
against screwing their systems installing dietunes. i even hate the new qt
implementation of the mp4 h.264 format as it alway looks worse than avi x.264
and runs like crap on any system. i wish apple would go fall off a tree
somewhere and stay out of the real media world as they just seem to stuff up
every standard... somebody has to be different.

as for surfing without firewalls i bet your router modem has one and if it
doesnt your gear is crapola. my kids xp machine sat there unpatched for two
years and didnt get a single thing wrong with it behind a hardware firewall, so
i can safely say that my kids 2 year unpatched xp systems is up to your
standards, at least.

i still use windows 98 on the net sometimes as i need very low latency for a
particular vintage software synthesiser, and still dont have problems with
viruses and worms, so under justcommentings security analysis even win98 lives
up to justcommenting seemless os standards too..

where the problems start is with key gens and exe cracks with bad payloads,
which by the way are way more accesible and common with doze boxes.

sure you take a risks when looking at by passing copyright protection but the
alternative is lets have little fun or no fun on a mac. those dodgy sites you
speak of, it is more what you download and execute than the site itself and if
you use a mac i am afraid there isnt much out there that could possibly work on
a mac, in essence you are visiting those sites for sweet fa. so your point is?

if mac manages to increase it's market share then the hackers mite get
interested. at the moment it is more attractive for them to direct their
efforts at the largest user base. why write malware to target 5% of the
market? it's a numbers game.

anyway, a reduced threat environment does not equate to safer systems.

apparently it takes apple about three times as long as ms to patch
vulnerabilities once they have become public (an average of 66 days compared
to 21 days) - leaving the systems open to exploitation in the mean time ...
again dangerous considering the general mac user's lax attitude towards
security.

it is also my understanding that multiple pcs on a network can be
automatically patched simulataneously, while mac's can only be updated one at
a time.

apple were initially so flippant about security that the month of apple bugs
project forced the company to deal with reality. i hear their adverts
were quite smug too ... almost challenging the computer world to find holes in
their os - be careful what you wish for.

noone here is claiming pcs are not riddled with security flaws, but quit
touting about how secure your mac is when there's more holes in it than an
apple in a worm farm.

hey, you were being a dick, i thought it was only fitting that i was too with the big bang thing. you were
dissing the op from the get-go.

and now you're really clutching at straws. obviously there was no mp3 player 'war' because apple
exploited a brand new market, my point was they used no underhanded or illegal tactics to do it. (that's
the key difference.) also, aac is part of the mpeg-4 specification, it's not 'owned', etc. by apple, they just
chose to use it because mp3 was dated. and neither itunes or ipod are 'aac players at their core' since
neither originally supported aac at all for several years. and lmfao, you call it a proprietary format and
implicitly compare it to mp3. both audio layers are specified by the same group of people, mpeg, yet aac
requires much less in the way of licensing. and even though your hands are full, your next move will be to
clutch at straws and say 'but lame doesn't need to be licenced' even though that's completely irrelevant.
am i right or am i right?

and soul electronique, you seem to be no less than partially trolling ('diepod'? seriously? and you have a
kid? 😐), and i'm already arguing with one person who's at least pretending not to, and even that's getting
dull, so i'm not even going to bother responding to what you're saying.

ven, theoretical holes don't mean shit when in six years there have been no actual real, practical threats.

"hey, you were being a dick, i thought it was only fitting that i was too"

speak for ya self. self admittance is a rare quality but you dont have to
bring others down around you at the same time... 😛

"and you have a
kid? 😐"

wtf has that got to do with your crappy pc...

yes and in a wheelchair and he runs 10x faster than your mac.

here ill post some details of a good salvos store. please take your unwanted
hardware to the location that i specify. ohh hang on they cant give them
away... you might be able to swap it for a good 386.

numaris, not to troll but i'm finding your post more than a little incoherent.

soul electronique, what does the kid have to do with anything? well see what it shared its parentheses
with? your immaturity and trolling? yeah, that. i was just surprised someone old enough to be a parent
would honestly be that much of a dick, it's the sort of thing you expect from a ~14 year old. speaking of
which, i can only assume that's the age you knocked your girlfriend up, because i can't imagine you being
an adult. and now i'm going to just completely ignore you. troll away all you want.

hmmm ok your loss not mine :d

chill it just a puter and a mac at that too. you dont have to wear it as such
a badge on your chest. pft. :d

ven and i are going to watch that evil rss spaming eztv torrent now...

:p

enjoy.

newsflash:

i think lg make a fridge with an lcd and internet connection to do your online
groceries. like i think you can watch poona while you fetch the cream. my
guess is the missus will love this fridge and spend more time playing second
life with the fury things you find in the back...

meh! my computer a toy? well, well i'll tell you, i own 50 ibm bluegene/l's in
a cluster that just eats any mactel, amd, sun or intel (yada) up in the blink
of an eye. its theoricaly capable of 18000 teraflops poer second and even
powerful enough to create this fantasy on the fly as we speak, its so fast i
posted a comment and eztv forums just muissed it, win98 never ran sio fast and
pron never looked so good. yea 😛 bring it on 😛