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Posted at 20/06/2008, 21:02
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a perspective at life that has issues that many people deal with. transsexual, gay, pregnant teen, teen father, being older than you portrait or are... simply, just being different. i want to see what the "perfect" community does (be bitches? obviously. or are they?) to the perfect doctor husband after it all unravels. |
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Posted at 20/06/2008, 21:03
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yeah nip/tuck is entertaining, but i'm not watching a show based on someone dealing with transsexual issues. trannies are probably the most offensive type of freak. |
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Posted at 20/06/2008, 22:49
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you do realize that watching a show about a transsexual will not actually cause your penis to fall off, right? i thought it was great, a nice follow up to nip/tuck. there's a young guy on the show who reminds me of james spader's character in pretty in pink but looks more like heath ledger. i also enjoyed sarah paulson in her role, which is amazing. |
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Posted at 20/06/2008, 22:49
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i'm not sure which is more offensive: the transphobic transmisogynists who are so insecure they feel the need to attack trans folk any chance they get or this show created by cissexual people who obviously don't have a clue what it's like for any gender variant person whatsoever. the pilot employs every stereotype in the book and while you may find it entertaining, those of us who have lived it find this incredibly degrading. our lives are nothing like this. just once i'd like to see someone get it right. if the producers had any interest in our stories at all they would have consulted transsexuals before they put out this garbage. |
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Posted at 20/06/2008, 22:55
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that would have to be frustrating. i've seen a lot of shows, though, where they were a little stereotypical (about a group) in the pilot or first couple of episodes to bring people unfamiliar with the culture up to speed. if it were airing on logo or something it might be different, but then a bigger complaint might be that mainstream tv didn't cover transsexual topics well enough. i think it's a massive step forward from the typical tv portrayal--every police procedural features at least one dead transsexual hooker per year. |
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Posted at 20/06/2008, 23:36
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very good and respectful. i'm m2f transsexual, and it's nice to see the subject treated without the point and laugh and humilation we usually get in the media, let alone as a major focus character and big name actors like ralph fiennes. very, very good. |
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Posted at 20/06/2008, 23:53
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it has nothing to do with how secure i am with myself, i just don't believe that gender can be changed. i don't really care if someone would be more comfortable in a different gender..it doesn't change nature. southpark summed it up quite eloquently in the episode where one of the kids becomes trans-racial and gets operations to turn him into a black kid, while his father goes trans-species. |
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 00:25
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there's an old chinese saying, which i think applies perfectly. if you want to change the world - change yourself first, if you want to change (yourself) start with the world. (rough translation) still, imo if a person is so lost (or thinks he is) sex change, looks to me like a wrong approach to the problem. anyway i think it takes a lot of guts and a major desperation to go agains the very thing that created all of the life on this planet i.e nature. -> another evidence that human body and human brain are unrelated in terms of origins. |
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 00:56
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as usual we're greeted with broad statements like "you can't change your gender" without any backing whatsoever other than the word "nature". i assume by "nature" you are referring to chromosomal pairings. have you ever had your chromosomes checked out? i'm going to take a stab and say you haven't. you probably also are unaware as to the emerging studies showing that there are plenty of women with xy pairings and men with xx pairings who never feel out of place in their assigned genders. or perhaps you're referring to ones genitals. how do you take intersex people into account then? if you lost your penis in a freak accident would you stop being a man? no, you wouldn't. secondary sexual characteristics are arbitrary. i have breasts, long hair, soft features. i look like a woman because, and don't be shocked, i am one. i live as a woman everyday. i suffer your sexism and your misogyny. i get paid less to do the same job you do. my sex is not unnatural, a put on, a joke, or an insult. you are deluded. if south park is your best defense then your logic is tremendously weak. we're left with one immutable fact: you are a bigot. you feel you have the right to horde your cissexual privilege over anyone who doesn't fit snugly into your comfort zone by waving your hand and saying "you can't change nature". you don't understand nature. if you did, you wouldn't be speaking so ignorantly. |
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 01:00
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while they may have done a few things right and may continue to do so in the episodes to come, this pilot does not make me hopeful. you're right, the tranny hooker stereotype hasn't shown up... yet. so many other stereotypes have though and that makes me anxious. as a community we often find ourselves being pushed backwards by this sort of media attention. misinformation is put forward because of a desire by the creators to create what they believe will be a more engaging story. all it does for us is leave us to have to, once again, say "no, we aren't actually like that. no, we don't do that nor do we feel that way." |
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 01:07
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really? you think this is an accurate portrayal? have you ever said "oh, i broke a nail!" or showed your vagina to a perfect stranger just because your transman husband thought it would be neat? yeah... me neither. that's because this stuff doesn't happen in the real world. obsessing over panties? yeah, i did that too.... when i was twelve! come on... how many times do we have to watch the application of makeup and the reveal of the pathetic tranny who can't "pass". it's all so tired. give me a positive role model, someone who is comfortable in who they are. let a transsexual right her own story about what her life has been and put that on television. that's what i want to see. everything else is just exploitation. |
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 02:12
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accurate or not, that was still an excellent pilot afaic, well written, a stellar cast, nicely pitched and v enjoyable. again, thank you very much – i really look forward to the season proper. also, more people need to realise that there's a difference between sex (biology - male, female, hermaphroditic etc), gender (masculinity, femininity and everything in between) and sexuality (heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, whatever floats your boat). there's not some fixed binary whereby if you have a penis you are inherently masculine and like to have sex with women, etc. it's not rocket science, and it's not that hard to get your head around. |
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 02:38
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great show! compared to most of the new stuff coming out, this was actually quite good and entertaining, hits alot of touchy topics in america almost like big love did except this is more focused on transsexuals and how they live a secret life and there's more to the show than just that, his family each have they're own problems too and i think it will be a big hit just like big love was. i recommend watching it! |
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 02:42
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Posted at 21/06/2008, 02:43
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i thoroughly enjoyed this one! one of the best new ones i\'ve seen so far. its really well done. and, its something different. i will be downloading regularly and looking forward to it. \") |
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