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Posted at 05/03/2008, 06:06
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thanks fridgist for those words my word numaris you need your mouth washing out with soap after that remark my brain cells are fine ty vey much wow how rude some peeps can be as for pop ups etc i have small children who use this pc with parental control so my browser is set right thanks once and for all i was not bitching mmmmm maybe the word baiting comes to mind |
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Posted at 05/03/2008, 06:16
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ohhh dear! get a room alredy guys. can i watch too 
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Posted at 05/03/2008, 21:43
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i was only aggravated because it's been happening a lot lately, which usually is no fault of our own, and when eztv gets annoyed, i get annoyed. also i had just woken up at the time, was in a bad mood, and on top of that my first reply didn't go through. as for the fund situation, we currently have two servers one of which is a dual xeon, and has a pretty expensive bill attached since it's not like we have an exact choice of providers for hosting a torrent site ;p yes, currently we are making more than we are dishing out, this is due to other plans in the works, to eventually run bt-chat ad free permanently. in the past, when we could afford it we have always taken the ads off, and when we redid our site, it was ad free for many months. we have been testing out different ad providers for the past 2 months, and trying to find an acceptable situation for us to achieve what we wish to achieve, and have even allowed users to disable the popup on their account with us. mininova isn't much of a market comparision at all. they run lots more servers, with lots more traffic, and probably have far better banner ad deals then we do. their form of advertising is no different from us, except we have one popup which pays far more than ad banners (our ad banners don't cover enough at all to pay the bills even). if we could get better income without the use of a popup then we would. popups are everywhere on the internet i don't see how one popup on our site causes everyone to go ape shit, that we have technically had for a long time, but only now noticeable to eztv members since we changed our direct linking policy, who have been spoiled by it in the past. problems people have been having with whatever ads are on our site related to browser problems, are very minimal and thus is very hard to fix for. the only thing we can recommend is trying different browsers, or just don't use our site. we don't recommend the use of ie at all on our site really, and from the replies on here, firefox works fine for all, as it does for me and everyone else i know. if anyone does have any idea for these problems related directly to the way our site is coded in any way, feel free to let us know either on irc (#bt-chat @ efnet), on our forums on the site or email (btchat[at]gmail). i hope this clears some things up for you. |
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Posted at 05/03/2008, 23:01
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Posted at 06/03/2008, 02:26
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nbtx, thanks for your response, this has certainly cleared many things up, and has confirmed much of what i thought. i did realise that mininova wasn't the best comparison when i wrote it, was just hoping no one would poke too big a hole in it  on that note though, mininova has much higher traffic levels but is also a more inviting site to visit. yes, yes, i know they can charge more for their click-through banners and such so they can physically afford to have less advertising - that doesn't mean that you guys have to go overboard, even if you do intend to go ad free permenantly. you don't need to run active x to have popups, i actually have no problem with a simple popup but activex really makes me want to leave a site, i'm sure a lot of people feel this way and it must be affecting your traffic levels. also, have you noticed a reduction in traffic recently since people started experiencing this lastest problem? i fear if you check there must be a difference, you'd still be getting the hits because people can still connect to the site even though it crashes instantly, but not as many pages viewed. at the end of the day, it is not the responsibility of the end user to select a browser specifically for a website, the site should be compatible with all browsers. so yes, it may be browser problems, but it's your browser problems. the average joe internet bloke that tries to visit your site and gets that error instantly gives up and goes to the competition, theres no complaining in the forum which they can't access, and why would they bother logging in to your irc channel? they probably don't even know what irc is. so your regulars keep coming back, and maybe you get a few new users that don't experience the problem, and don't care about active x. but what about the other 75% of the internet population that use ie6/ie7? thats who you want on your site, the person that's going to click on the pretty adverts. ok, i've written enough i think, it's not having a go at anyone, it's like a rant/suggestion type thing and if you don't read it all and just this last line i'll sum it up for you. if you make your site more inviting and compatible with all browsers, you increase your traffic levels, and can therefore start charging more for simpler adverts. |
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Posted at 06/03/2008, 02:32
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ok, and i should have checked that it was still causing errors before i'd written that whole thing, you've certainly fixed it for me anyway. i can now view pages again. |
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Posted at 06/03/2008, 02:56
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numaris, i don't need to email bt-chat, theres a representative here who is reading this thread. it is still reasonable to discuss eztv's primary mirror on this site. you can be pleasant sometimes, but most of the time you come across as an arrogant eztv lapdog. i don't mean to offend, it's just you don't need to police the forums in case someone says something that you feel conflicts with eztv - they do have admins for that  discussion is the whole point of forums. whether you like the content or not, telling people to shut up is...off topic? |
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Posted at 06/03/2008, 05:00
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someone agreed with me? woohoo! and i thought only the voices in my head had any approval
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Posted at 07/03/2008, 15:17
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fridgist thanks for your reply. is there still activex problems? i removed something else that we were testing which might have caused it, if not i'll see what else we can do. i also understand what you are saying about the browser problems, but it is something that is really hard for us to fix if it is in the ad coding itself. unless people have suggestions for better places to host ads, we are stuck with where we are. we are trying out different popup providers though to see which gives the best result. i myself visit bt-chat without any popup blockers, and allow all ads, and have no problems via ie or firefox. so it's hard for us to fix a problem if we're all highly computer competent people and have no problems ;p maybe i should try the site on my brothers computer or something i will talk it over with the rest of the gang though about figuring out a solution somehow, if you have any ideas, feel free to email us and we can discuss them. thanks! |
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Posted at 08/03/2008, 01:26
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i'm not sure what you've done now... at first it appears theres no active x running anymore which is great, but once i sit on a page for 20 seconds or so a script tries to run which gets blocked. it must be something to do with one of your popups or banners, i don't see the popups i just see that i have one blocked popup as soon as i enter the site - there isn't a blocked popup that coincides with the active x warning. definately a step in the right direction though! |
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Posted at 08/03/2008, 16:14
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i used the function to disable the ads but it doesn't work. admin : abusive remark removed. keep it civilized or you are out. |
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Posted at 08/03/2008, 18:07
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Posted at 09/03/2008, 11:30
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30 virus eh? lol i'm sorry but that is absolutely absurd. we do not serve virii on our site, and neither do our ad providers (intentionally). it is very highly unlikely you would be attacked by a virus. i'm sorry but you either misinterpreted what you were seeing, or you already have spyware/virus on your computer from things before you came to our site. as for some popups bleeding through when disabling them, we're looking into why this is happening. |
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Posted at 10/03/2008, 17:36
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Posted at 10/03/2008, 18:14
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some people are so rude... if you want something to be fixed bbear you should try at least telling us what os/software you are using to browse the internet. it's very doubtful you got any viruses without actually downloading and running a file of some kind. you might find that if your computer security is inadequate i.e. crap firewall/browser then you may already have malware and spyware installed throughout your system. that popup requesting you to do a scan is a common advertising ploy (although i've never been dumb enough to click on one myself) if you did follow the link in the popup then bt-chat is not liable for your own stupidity. (they are just the vessel for the ads, click on them at your own risk). much like the whole of the internet in general, you have to use common sense to navigate it or else risk endangering the security of your computer and your personal details. there may be popups, but you don't have to click on them.. |
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